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in a shooting after a fight in sacramento. a man was shot and killed outside los angeles. a woman lied in critical condition after being struck in the head after celebratory gunfire. three shot and killed in philadelphia. and then you add to that some 500 homicides in chicago alone last year. 87% of them gun related. how many more lives have to be lost before congress takes serious and extensive action in terms of gun violence? >> well, martin, it seems that the whole notion of death and violence is decoupled from gun laws. it is -- >> congratulations to the nra for that. well done. that's a brilliant maneuver. >> exactly right. i mean, americans to some extent accept a certain amount of gun violence. that's just part of the culture here. now, a lot of people thought that when you see a crisis, a tragedy of this proportion, large numbers of children being slaughtered, that would elevate it to another level. well, it did elevate it to another level for a couple weeks. yet it fades away again. it used to be congress would only act in times of crisis. now it seems even a time of crisis is
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